Tuesday, October 01, 2013

Triablogue Afraid Of Something?

Well, one USED to be able to post relatively freely on Triablogue, but now (2 days in a row) when I've attempted to respond to a conversation I was involved in I'm getting this:


Last night's response still hasn't become "visible" nor has tonight's (but it is a bit too early to judge tonight's posting).

Why the sudden moderation?   It used to be that one would just have "prove you're not a bot" by typing in the letters/numbers shown and posts would show up immediately.

11 comments:

  1. You're joking right? Triablogue censor hard and censor often. If you actually make a good argument, forget it. You'll be banned. They only want whipping boys.

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  2. I've been participating there for years... and while I've suspected some censorship in the past, they have always denied it. Currently they are trying to make hay over Pope Francis' recent interview, which I've challenged them several times on whether or not they've read the actual context - all I get is distractive responses.

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  3. Scott:

    You've been a blogger long enough now that you should at least be familiar with the options blogger gives in regard to comments on older posts, and understand as well some bloggers set the parameters of "older" posts to not be all that "old" (mine is set at 14 days, and unless it's something worthy, I probably won't publish an old comment).

    Perhaps you should do a little more investigating before accusing.

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  4. That is the case -- comments on blog posts older than 5 days go into moderation -- and we, being guys who have real lives, don't always check on that sort of thing. Your comment, to the effect, that we are "afraid" of you (or anything), made especially without knowledge of our comments policy -- isn't that what they call an "ad hominem"?

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  5. The original post I was responding to was posted Sept. 22. As of today, that's only 11 days ago. So, is it 5 days or 14 days? Or I guess we're talking about different blogs.

    It's really a lot easier to just allow posts to go through - then if someone posts something out of line, delete it. Much easier than having to moderate everything. If the cut-off is only 5 days, that's hardly enough time to have any sort of discussion - back and forth - at least for "guys who have real lives." So where is this 5 day policy mentioned in your "rules of engagement" article? Or perhaps it is mentioned somewhere else? On this rules of engagement page it states that comments are not moderated... hmmm. It appears they are - the objective reader can decide for themselves.

    Was my "question" an ad hominem? Well, not really - you could just answer it! "No, we're not afraid, we just have a policy of putting messages on moderation after 5 days." That could handle it. Kind of a restrictive moderation, but to each his own.

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  6. Yeah John.. you guys set up that 5 day moderation rule because you knew that after 5 days, someone like Mr. Windsor was bound to visit Triablogue and refute everything posted. Well, now you've been exposed!

    Wait, I think I see the third gunman hiding in a bush in the bushes behind my house. I'll be back later. First I have to get past the tin foil wrapped around my house so the government can't read my mind. Then I'll comment more BBL!

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  7. James, Reynolds works best, avoid those store brands.

    But seriously, that's the first time I've encountered this "5 day rule" and while I don't post there often (it's been a while), we've had a few "go-rounds" and I don't remember ever getting moderated in such a short period of time. Two to four weeks seems more reasonable to not end up delaying even further any kind of exchange - in fact, it pretty much kills the dialog. Perhaps it is not their intention to have a real dialog?

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    1. In seriousness Scott:

      1) I think you're a bit paranoid about the Triablogue horde being "afraid" of either you or anyone else (and I'm mostly thinking of Mr. Hays here, I would never wish to be at the end of his verbal sword).

      2) I certainly understand why Triablogue limits their open comments to 5 days. I certainly can't keep up with their initial postings, nor do I even attempt to follow the comments.

      3) I myself don't think the phrase "guys with real lives" is helpful to any sort of constructive dialog, though I certainly can understand John's tone in response to your suspicions about Triablogue policy. Speaking for myself only, I can appreciate that someone reads anything I blog, and yes, it's nice if they take the time to comment. However, my time restraints don't make it possible for a lot of interaction, so I choose carefully what is worthy of my time.

      4) By limiting the time comments can be posted, I have almost entirely cut down spam comments (I was getting a ton of them, mostly from bogus Muslim spammers). I would consider limiting the days even more if the spammers pick up on this.

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    2. 1) I think you're a bit paranoid about the Triablogue horde being "afraid" of either you or anyone else (and I'm mostly thinking of Mr. Hays here, I would never wish to be at the end of his verbal sword).

      sw: I fear not the sword of Mr. Hays. I would add, I did not mean to imply he/they are afraid of ME rather that something being said which demonstrates their lack of comprehension and poor portrayal of what Pope Francis REALLY SAID was what they might fear. Now I see that they have just imposed a 5 day limit on freedom of speech. That's fine and I'll keep that in mind for the future.

      2) I certainly understand why Triablogue limits their open comments to 5 days. I certainly can't keep up with their initial postings, nor do I even attempt to follow the comments.

      sw: Well, they have plenty of "bloggers" who could help manage the volume, but whatever floats their boat.

      3) I myself don't think the phrase "guys with real lives" is helpful to any sort of constructive dialog, though I certainly can understand John's tone in response to your suspicions about Triablogue policy. Speaking for myself only, I can appreciate that someone reads anything I blog, and yes, it's nice if they take the time to comment. However, my time restraints don't make it possible for a lot of interaction, so I choose carefully what is worthy of my time.

      sw: Well, I quoted John on that "guys with real lives" for a reason... it takes more time to moderate everything than it would to moderate after the fact (delete inappropriate postings).

      sw: As for his tone, their "policy" invites people to attack them and states, "You can say pretty much anything you please about the team. Attack us with impunity. We don't care. We can take it." Now I repeat, I asked a question which could have simply been answered, "We're not afraid, we just have a 5 day limit in place for unmoderated postings." So, rather than "take it" - John responds as if he cannot take it and makes a comparison to "guys with lives." Those who have jumped to his defense appear to believe he cannot "take it" either.

      sw: As for picking and choosing what to respond to and/or engage in - I am fairly picky too. I also host an email group which gets VERY busy from time to time, and there's no way I can keep up with every discussion there.

      4) By limiting the time comments can be posted, I have almost entirely cut down spam comments (I was getting a ton of them, mostly from bogus Muslim spammers). I would consider limiting the days even more if the spammers pick up on this.

      sw: Well, that's pretty much why any of us have limits on the combox to older postings. My reasoning is that if someone posts a response to an older post, I want to be prompted about that comment so that I don't miss it and can check it for appropriateness. The time limit here is currently 4 weeks.

      AMDG,
      Scott<<<

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  8. To date, the response I attempted to post on this thread and elicited the posting/question here, has still not been posted there. It was a response to PBJ.

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    1. Since that response never showed up on Triablogue, I re-composed my response (and added another to it) here.

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